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		<title>By: Justina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justina</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Xue wrote on apr-17, 10:12pm:&lt;/strong&gt; &#039;The reply to that letter may have been satire in its format, but it doesn&#039;t mean that its content can&#039;t be racist. It is telling that he chose to attack the man&#039;s race. That this even pops up as a possible &#039;flaw&#039; is indicative of Mr. Chua&#039;s racism. Yes, he can mock that man through satire - for example, the language his e-mail was written in was quite stiff and pompous. BUT he chose to attack his race and nationality, which would never have popped up if he wasn&#039;t racist. Why did the word &#039;racism&#039; pop up in his head anyway?

Anyway, I think the major cause of offense was another more explicitly racist excerpt: “the Singaporean association here in my school has become an indian association. so gross. and somemore non-singaporean. its just so repulsive…these ugly guys with dark skin n irksome features. ya. i discovered i’m so racist. at the club (under lighting in which everyone is supposed to look good), i still find indians and filipinos (dark ones) so repulsive n such a turn-off. anyway, so now we have this ugly mass as our president. n his indian counterpart who isn’t even singaporean is our senator. what is the world coming to? why are indians dominating the singaporeans here?
all these mang ka-li….gross gross. don&#039;t come near me!”

Finally, I would like to clarify that while I think it&#039;s fair for the public to criticise his racist views, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to criticise him based on other irrelevant characteristics (like his choice of &#039;Mamasan Dolly&#039; for his name of his blog ring, IIRC - some latched onto this to insinuate that he&#039;s gay...).&#039;


&lt;strong&gt;juznuts wrote on apr-17, 10:16pm:&lt;/strong&gt; &#039;actually, i&#039;m not suggesting that his letter was meant as a satire. Rather, what I&#039;m suggesting is that instead of &#039;burning him on the stake&#039; by reporting him to the ST and PSC, someone should have written a mr brown like article about it. That&#039;s one of the reasons why I cited his article in the first place. This way, you made known the problem at hand, without the consequences of a personal attack on his &#039;other irrelevant characteristics&#039;. &#039;


&lt;strong&gt;xue wrote on apr-17, 11:30pm: &lt;/strong&gt;&#039;Oh, I apologise for misinterpreting you then. Shall blame it on the lack of sleep and exam-stress. :P

I do see your point, because I&#039;m not sure that the severity of the backlash was deserved.&#039;


&lt;strong&gt;fishtank wrote on apr-18, 1:04am:&lt;/strong&gt; &#039;Maybe the term xenophobia fits better even though racist is what he choose to call himself and what everyone followed upon...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Interestingly, quoting from wikipedia&#124;racism:

&quot;Since the last quarter of the 20th century, there have been few in developed nations who describe themselves as racist, so that identification of a group or person as racist is nearly always controversial. Racism is recognised by many as an affront to basic human dignity and a violation of human rights.&quot;

So better not use the term lightly..:)

Furthermore, even if he written it as a witty satire, the underlying message would probably be the same. Just different forms of expression. Mr Brown&#039;s article is probably more palatable because he expressed the innocence and bewilderment of a child, who could only reason at his level of intellect. Nothing particularly inflammatory. cz&#039;s is more like a wild lash of the whip not expected from someone his age and maturity. That&#039;s a great difference.&#039;

&lt;strong&gt;fishtank wrote on apr-18, 1:11am:&lt;/strong&gt; &#039; Three Question lingers:

Why would a Singapore Students Association have the president who is non-singaporean? Pretty unusual...eh. Is there an India Students Association?

Did anyone hack into his site to access his blog? Wouldn&#039;t it be seen in different light if that happened? Who did the hacking?

How did it became known so quickly he is a PSC scholar? Did he bragged about it on his website or it was uncovered by some super snoop?&#039;


&lt;strong&gt;juznuts wrote on apr-18, 1:27am: &lt;/strong&gt;&#039; it&#039;s not uncommon for other nationalities to run for a committee position for another association. usually it only happens when there&#039;s a lack of singaporeans in the SSA though, like in the case of the SSA in my sch. I don&#039;t know if this was the case here.

The blog wasn&#039;t hacked into. Only the root site was pw-protected, poorly at that. The rest of the site wasn&#039;t.

Apparently, he did mention PSC somewhere in his blog entries, according to the forums.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Xue wrote on apr-17, 10:12pm:</strong> &#8216;The reply to that letter may have been satire in its format, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that its content can&#8217;t be racist. It is telling that he chose to attack the man&#8217;s race. That this even pops up as a possible &#8216;flaw&#8217; is indicative of Mr. Chua&#8217;s racism. Yes, he can mock that man through satire &#8211; for example, the language his e-mail was written in was quite stiff and pompous. BUT he chose to attack his race and nationality, which would never have popped up if he wasn&#8217;t racist. Why did the word &#8216;racism&#8217; pop up in his head anyway?</p>
<p>Anyway, I think the major cause of offense was another more explicitly racist excerpt: “the Singaporean association here in my school has become an indian association. so gross. and somemore non-singaporean. its just so repulsive…these ugly guys with dark skin n irksome features. ya. i discovered i’m so racist. at the club (under lighting in which everyone is supposed to look good), i still find indians and filipinos (dark ones) so repulsive n such a turn-off. anyway, so now we have this ugly mass as our president. n his indian counterpart who isn’t even singaporean is our senator. what is the world coming to? why are indians dominating the singaporeans here?<br />
all these mang ka-li….gross gross. don&#8217;t come near me!”</p>
<p>Finally, I would like to clarify that while I think it&#8217;s fair for the public to criticise his racist views, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to criticise him based on other irrelevant characteristics (like his choice of &#8216;Mamasan Dolly&#8217; for his name of his blog ring, IIRC &#8211; some latched onto this to insinuate that he&#8217;s gay&#8230;).&#8217;</p>
<p><strong>juznuts wrote on apr-17, 10:16pm:</strong> &#8216;actually, i&#8217;m not suggesting that his letter was meant as a satire. Rather, what I&#8217;m suggesting is that instead of &#8216;burning him on the stake&#8217; by reporting him to the ST and PSC, someone should have written a mr brown like article about it. That&#8217;s one of the reasons why I cited his article in the first place. This way, you made known the problem at hand, without the consequences of a personal attack on his &#8216;other irrelevant characteristics&#8217;. &#8216;</p>
<p><strong>xue wrote on apr-17, 11:30pm: </strong>&#8216;Oh, I apologise for misinterpreting you then. Shall blame it on the lack of sleep and exam-stress. <img src='http://singaporewatch.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do see your point, because I&#8217;m not sure that the severity of the backlash was deserved.&#8217;</p>
<p><strong>fishtank wrote on apr-18, 1:04am:</strong> &#8216;Maybe the term xenophobia fits better even though racist is what he choose to call himself and what everyone followed upon&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism</a></p>
<p>Interestingly, quoting from wikipedia|racism:</p>
<p>&#8220;Since the last quarter of the 20th century, there have been few in developed nations who describe themselves as racist, so that identification of a group or person as racist is nearly always controversial. Racism is recognised by many as an affront to basic human dignity and a violation of human rights.&#8221;</p>
<p>So better not use the term lightly..:)</p>
<p>Furthermore, even if he written it as a witty satire, the underlying message would probably be the same. Just different forms of expression. Mr Brown&#8217;s article is probably more palatable because he expressed the innocence and bewilderment of a child, who could only reason at his level of intellect. Nothing particularly inflammatory. cz&#8217;s is more like a wild lash of the whip not expected from someone his age and maturity. That&#8217;s a great difference.&#8217;</p>
<p><strong>fishtank wrote on apr-18, 1:11am:</strong> &#8216; Three Question lingers:</p>
<p>Why would a Singapore Students Association have the president who is non-singaporean? Pretty unusual&#8230;eh. Is there an India Students Association?</p>
<p>Did anyone hack into his site to access his blog? Wouldn&#8217;t it be seen in different light if that happened? Who did the hacking?</p>
<p>How did it became known so quickly he is a PSC scholar? Did he bragged about it on his website or it was uncovered by some super snoop?&#8217;</p>
<p><strong>juznuts wrote on apr-18, 1:27am: </strong>&#8216; it&#8217;s not uncommon for other nationalities to run for a committee position for another association. usually it only happens when there&#8217;s a lack of singaporeans in the SSA though, like in the case of the SSA in my sch. I don&#8217;t know if this was the case here.</p>
<p>The blog wasn&#8217;t hacked into. Only the root site was pw-protected, poorly at that. The rest of the site wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Apparently, he did mention PSC somewhere in his blog entries, according to the forums.&#8217;</p>
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